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Hydrogen Rich Water for ME/CFS - Friedberg Pilot Study

Methyl90

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Hi, can you confirm that only magnesium with water will give me a much lower PPM concentration than the combination of malic acid and magnesium? I feel like my poles don't work anymore after just two uses 🤔😩
 

Hip

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Hi, can you confirm that only magnesium with water will give me a much lower PPM concentration than the combination of malic acid and magnesium?

I don't know for sure, but the reaction of Mg with water is much slower, so unless you leave it for days, you will not get much H2 produced. Whereas the reaction with malic acid is fast and intense.
 

junkcrap50

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Hi, can you confirm that only magnesium with water will give me a much lower PPM concentration than the combination of malic acid and magnesium? I feel like my poles don't work anymore after just two uses 🤔😩
The magnesium rods after some uses will also have gotten an oxide layer on it, which the weak acid will take off and expose raw magnesium.
 

Methyl90

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Are 2-3 g of acid with 3 g of magnesium bar sufficient for a 750 ml bottle? I don't have the shavings but only pieces of bars.
 

Remi

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Can you still use it now and then? If it works for a day, that would already be nice. Anything that might agitate me, will. Tried Horsechestnut and whatnot. So I would not buy this for daily use.
Here's my experience with Hâ‚‚ water. My brother bought a Hâ‚‚ water generator, and he has been bringing me HRW. The first day was awesome, and it brought me out of a bad crash. The next day was good too. After that, I started to feel agitated and had super-intense anxiety and terrible insomnia, including restless leg issues (restless body, lol) whenever I drank it, lasting over 24 hours.

I tested it out, eliminating other factors, so I know it's absolutely the water. It's the most bizarre thing, as I haven't found anyone else having had such a strong reaction to Hâ‚‚ water.

My experience was similar. Great at first, then agitating. Tried it a few times.