i wonder, i read another story(ies) of people getting stung by a wasp(or was it bee?) or some other poisonous animal like a spider and then miracolously improving.
there seams to be something about poisons which seam to cure some things.
one reported he got stung into the hand where he had arthritis and low pain for years due to a small fracture in that hand. after the sting it was gone.
maybe it resets the immune system or something, i dont know.
or the poison kills deep pathogens.
you got bit by a tick and it got worse, but a tick transmits virus and bacteria and poses a challenge. i dont think this is the same with poisonous sting or bite as the mechanism is poison and not infection.
maybe after a tick you need a sting.
I was not suggesting it was like a sting. I am fairly certain that I contracted a Bartonella co-infection from it as well as the Borrelia Lyme infection. Not had a successful test for either, only one false negative for Borrelia so far. NHS testing is crap when a person can actually get a test. We cannot even get a Doctors appointment in the UK without jumping through hoops and phoning during the worst time of day early in the morning.
What I was saying was that intracellular pathogens can make the immune system move to a Th1 response rather than the Th2 which I relied upon before. There are also other none Lyme pathogens which can do a very similar thing as I mentioned. Just be thankful it isn't Lyme TBVH because they can be extremely difficult to eradicate. [Oops it looks like Blazer95 does also have Lyme judging by Blazer95's sig]
I don't recommend antibiotics to ME sufferers because of what I know about the cause of ME and my ideas hold up better than any other theory. Biofilm protected Pathogens in one location of the digestive system will adapt to any antimicrobial rendering it useless in future. That means if you take many DIFFERENT antimicrobials all will become useless against the causative pathogen(s) when it is proven. That will make a cure considerably more difficult.
Imagine having nothing to use against the pathogen which would otherwise cure you of ME. That is the situation which we are all in and I have a lot of experience of this adaption to antimicrobials. Mine have adapted to Turkey tail mushroom which had the strongest ever effect against the pathogen causing my ME, the 2nd dose, no reaction. I had not expected the reaction otherwise I would of removed the biofilm before taking it. Lesson learned. It was the same with Silver because they are all, multiple infections creating an extremely high digestive permeability, now resistant to all forms of silver. Ellagic acid (Pomegranate juice) might hopefully change that.
@Blazer95 It looks like you are in a very similar position to me judging by your sig as that says that you have a positive test for Lyme and Bartonella infections. Have you see the forum about treating Bart?
It's a closed forum, no one can join or post but he uses it to post ideas about treatment including using an Eggplant extract. I ordered some of that, took two tries to get it but I have that now but I am trying to work out precisely where the lymph nodes are in the lower leg which I believe are causing swelling of my lower legs when I stand. Lots of discomfort too and I want to try some of the extract on the Lymph nodes in my lower leg but I now cannot find a good picture of where they are.
Google is not helping. I want to go very very slow with it until I know what effect it has. He claims that it helps to reverse the immune suppression caused by Bartonella. My immune system is being wrecked by these F'in things. I cannot make progress with ME and solve that until I make some progress with Bart so I can stand up without my legs swelling up and the pain and discomfort I get after standing for short times. I cannot even sit with my legs down because of this and it's a very uncomfortable way to sit. I just cannot stand up for long enough to do what I need to eliminate ME.
https://bartonella.freeforums.net/board/1/general-discussion
They cause calcification and can raise Blood Pressure which they have done in me. They can also promote cancer because they stop the body from destroying the (abnormal) infected cells which can also extend to cancerous cells.
