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Dr David Tuller: David Putrino on 1) Australian Call to Scrap the Term “Long Covid” and 2) New Pre-Print on Sex Differences in LC

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Trial By Error: David Putrino on 1) Australian Call to Scrap the Term “Long Covid” and 2) New Pre-Print on Sex Differences in LC
Leave a Comment / By David Tuller / 19 March 2024

By David Tuller, DrPH

Last week, just in time for Long Covid Awareness Day on Friday, the chief health officer of the Australian state of Queensland, John Gerrard, declared that the term “Long Covid” should be dropped. He based his argument on Queensland survey data suggesting that rates of prolonged disability after Covid-19 are similar to those after other respiratory illnesses.
The research, to be presented next month at a conference in Barcelona, has not been peer-reviewed. Nonetheless, the state’s promotion of these findings led to widespread news coverage and lots of criticism; his comments are really pretty stupid. In In fact, Dr Gerrard has a well-deserved reputation for downplaying concerns about the pandemic.

To discuss the issue, I spoke with David Putrino, who trained as a physical therapist and neuroscientist in his native Australia and is now director of rehabilitation innovation at Mt Sinai Health System in New York. We also spoke about a new pre-print from Dr Putrino, Yale immunologist Akiko Iwasaki, and colleagues called “Sex differences in symptomatology and immune profiles of Long COVID.” (At one point, Dr Putrino searches for the name of an Australian Nobel laureate who trashed the Queensland research; it is Professor Peter Doherty, an immunologist, who tweeted his criticism here.)
 
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rates of prolonged disability after Covid-19 are similar to those after other respiratory illnesses

The connection between Chlamydia pneumonia and ME comes to mind, which is well known in MS, but of course barely received any attention in ME.
 

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The connection between Chlamydia pneumonia and ME comes to mind, which is well known in MS, but of course barely received any attention in ME.

That is interesting, prolonged disability rates similar to other respiratory illnesses. So I wonder what is the percentage of long term disability from other respiratory illnesses is?? So not just long covid but other chronic conditions they are ignoring.
At a guess, going from the Australian studies in the 1990s called the Dubbo study showing 10% having ongoing illness from ebv, Q fever etc, so other respiratory illnesses say 10%, along with 10% from covid. That's a significant number of people left in the lurch 🤔